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JOKE:
Q: What is the difference between kinky and perverted?
A: Kinky, you use a feather. Perverted, you use the whole damn chicken.
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FACT:
In the UK, it is legal to have sex with a dead chicken, but not a live one.
(Sexual Offences Act 2003; refers quite specifically to sexual activity with a “living animal”)
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FACT:
In the UK, it is (generally) legal to have sex with a live person, but not a dead one.
(Sexual Offences Act 2003; refers quite specifically to sexual activity with a “dead person“)
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FACT:
In the UK, it is legal for you to pretend to have sex with a live chicken or a dead person, but soon anyone who looks at photos/video of you engaging in this legal activity will be breaking the law.
No, that’s not a joke… it’s labelled quite clearly:
The Register – ‘Extreme porn’ law could criminalise millions
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TRIVIA:
It’s been a whole year since I published anything on Celebrity Bestiality.
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LINKS:
The Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill
Cheers to Clive for the heads-up.
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UPDATES:
A correction from Scott of loveandgarbage, who says; If you check s 142 you will note that the 2003 Act does not apply in Scotland (the law in Scotland on these topics is based on case law – on the position relating to actions with the deceased see para 5.28 of the following Scottish law Commission report (link) which indicates that there is difficulty in fitting it into any particular criminal act at the moment; and on animals our law the position was established in a case in 1845 that it is a crime to have “unnatural carnal connection with a beast” and whether or not the beast is alive is not specified in the commentaries – and it is suggested in the leading modern criminal law textbook that it is only a crime for a man to do so, the position for women is not clear). Under cl 149 of the new bill the provisions in Part 5 that you refer to do not apply to Scotland.
OK, who wants to be first to point out that Scott’s correction includes a link to a PDF file?
By Scott April 30, 2008 - 4:26 pm
Apologies for my atrocious grammar Tim – I sent the e-mail earlier to try to note that your post suggests the matters you identify apply generally in the UK. The position in Scotland differs (surprisingly) to some extent – and in relation to your central point on the current bill it is interesting to note that the law in Scotland and the rest of the UK will differ, with no obvious pressure for change in the Scottish parliament.If you check s 142 you will note that the Sexual Offences Act 2003 provisions that you quote do not apply in Scotland.The law in Scotland on the topics of necrophilia and bestilaity is based on case law from the nineteenth century and earlier, or has never generated any criminal complaint.On the position relating to sexual activities with corpses see para 5.28 of the Scottish law Commission report on Sexual Offences (linked in your edited post) which indicates that there is difficulty in determining how sexual acts with a corpse are dealt with by the Scots criminal law at the moment. There is a suggestion that as this is not proscribed as being criminal, it may not be a criminal offence in Scotland at all (although there are one or two catch all offences including a common law offence of criminalising "Shamelessly indecent conduct" that may serve to criminalise it).ON sexual acts with animals in Scots law the position was established in a case in 1845 that it is a crime to have "unnatural carnal connection with a beast" and whether or not it is a requirement that "the beast" is alive is not specified in the commentaries. Further, it is suggested in the leading modern criminal law textbook that it is only a crime for a man to have sexual relations with an animal. The position for women is not clear, and it is suggested in the textbook that no criminal offence can be committed by a woman.When you refer to the proposed offence in the new bill in relation to "extreme pornography" it is noteworthy that it is in Part 5 of the bill, and cl 149 makes clear that this does not apply to Scotland.Accordingly, the possession of such material in Scotland would – following the coming into force of this Act – not be criminal (unless it can be treated as falling within some other area of Scots criminal law). Hence if you had a laptop in Gretna and viewed the material on it you would be fine, but travel a few miles south to Longtown or Carlisle with the same laptop – suddenly you're criminalised.Perhaps this offers a new business opportunity for the Scottish economy…CheersScott
By Scott April 30, 2008 - 4:33 pm
WHen I said "no criminal offence can be committed by a woman" that is of course only in the context of bestiality. Otherwise women are free to commit criminal offences.Until they get caught.
By Manic April 30, 2008 - 4:40 pm
Heh. Again, thanks for your input, Scott.