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The CCTV (or whoever they are) have run out of time. Download options will be with you shortly.

UPDATE – Atomic batteries to power… turbines to speed…

Matt Wardman is kindly hosting versions of the video that he downloaded, plus some MP4 options from my download:

Instructions:

1. Download anything you think you will need to keep a copy for your own records and/or upload a fresh copy at a new location:

Matt Wardman – Sexual Orientation Regulations: Archive of CCTV Demo Promotional Video

2. But please don’t host the videos anywhere else just yet… check in by email first:

manic AT bloggerheads DOT com

3. Then await your instructions. We’re going to get co-ordinated, oh yes we are.

Cheers all.

(PS – I’m feeling surprisingly relaxed about the removal of the parody… the original is ridiculous enough. Still, I may jump through YouTube’s hoops at a later date purely as a matter of principle.)

As expected, the (alleged) originators of the ‘teaching kids to be gay’ video went direct to YouTube, who folded faster than Robert Lang on speed (for reasons that should be obvious).

YouTube even removed a clear example of parody covered under ‘fair use’.

There are hoops to jump through on the latter that I was not expecting, but – for the original – I have this statement prepared:

The way in which the original was presented and released makes me doubt the veracity of any anonymous (!) claim to copyright; the ‘live’ segment in the middle could very well have been lifted from an unknown third party. (In fact, there are many who still believe that this section of the video was made by Chris Morris.)

I have the original saved to disk, and I will be passing out copies 24 hours from now for hosting at any location the recipients deem proper.

If the (alleged) original producers wish to get in touch and prove ownership to my satisfaction before this happens, they have a full day to do so.

UPDATE – You can now download a copy of this grubby piece of propaganda here.

A busy morning… but I do have some correspondence to share with you.

[Psst! If you’re wondering what this is about, click here. Regulars, please note the similarity in format (the hugging paragraphs) between these emails and the sock-puppet comments archived here.]

From: campaign2007
To: bloggerheads (via the YouTube messaging system)
Sent: March 25, 2007
Subject: Breach of copyright

Dear Bloggerheads,

I have noticed you have re-posted a video which I have removed, citing it as ‘public domain’. However, the copyright belongs to me and so I would appreciate it if you removed the video.
You have also used our footage within another video, again breaching my copyright.
Please remove the above two videos or I will have to inform YouTube of this breach of copyright.

Regards,

Campaign2007

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To: campaign2007
From: bloggerheads (via the YouTube messaging system)
Sent: March 25, 2007
Subject: Re: Breach of copyright

Dear Campaign2007,

I would be happy to comply in the first instance if you would be so good as to prove ownership.

In the second instance, ‘fair use’ as parody applies. Sorry.

Tim Ireland

PS – For future correspondence, please use email:
[email address provided]

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From: campaign2007
To: bloggerheads (via the YouTube messaging system)
Sent: March 25, 2007
Subject: Re: Re: Breach of copyright

Dear Bloggerheads,

Please could you clarify how you want me to prove ownership?
I produced the clip and uploaded it. I am the originator of this video.

Regards,
Campaign2007

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To: campaign2007
From: bloggerheads (via the YouTube messaging system)
Sent: March 25, 2007
Subject: Re: Breach of copyright

You are an anonymous user of YouTube, and the live section of the clip could very well be a production you have lifted/adopted for your purposes.

You need to prove that you are the owner of the clip… that initially requires you to state who produced it and then prove that you are that person and/or that you represent the relevant organisation.

Next message by *direct email*, please, or I will be forced to assume that you have no intention of revealing such details and/or that you are in no way connected to the original producer of this video

Tim Ireland
[email address provided]

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I haven’t heard anything since.

[PS – Meanwhile, another sock-puppet breeding right-wing dickhead is struggling with copyright issues here.]

UPDATE – The mirror of this grubby piece of this propaganda has now been removed… but you can download a copy of the original here.

This quote from ‘a real gay’ still tickles me. I make no apologies.

On March 18 2007, an organisation known as The Christian Congress for Traditional Values (aka ‘The CCTV’) launched their own YouTube channel.

On March 19 2007, they uploaded two videos of media coverage relating to their concerns over Sexual Orientation Regulations, and a third showing the role The CCTV played in the Jerry Springer: The Opera protests.

(Regulars may note that the JS:TO affair has much in common with this one, particularly the dishonest way in which the case has been presented, and use of the Daily Mail as a key propaganda device.)

On March 18 2007 the account campaign2007 was also created and a video entitled What The Government Doesn’t Want You To Know, expressing concern over what might happen should the Sexual Orientation Regulations pass into law. This, like the CCTV videos above, was uploaded on March 19 2007, and made available to the public at this URL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnjpgw91CXQ

It was then removed by the owner of that account on March 22 2007.

As no-one is publicly claiming ownership of this film, I’m operating on the assumption that it is in the public domain until told otherwise. A mirror has been uploaded to YouTube at this location:

What The Government Doesn’t Want You To Know (ARCHIVE)

(A full transcript of the video is available here should that mirror be removed.)

On the evening of March 19 2007 a post was made to Usenet promoting the video by a new user (with the email address campaign2007a@googlemail.com). The headers show that this post originated from the IP address 80.42.230.184 (a Tiscali user, so the location given – ‘London’ – is not a reliable one).

On the website of The CCTV, the video was promoted on this page using a message ‘from an un-named source’. That message was removed today (March 23 2007) and replaced with a simple link to a slideshow of the related protest. The text from the original version of that page appears below:

Find out what the government doesn’t want you to know
From an un-named source

Find out what the government doesn’t want you to know: see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnjpgw91CXQ

From this coming Wednesday it will be law that ALL children in ALL schools MUST be taught about homosexual sex and relationships, using explicit material. That includes YOUR CHILDREN and those of your friends, no matter what their age.

TELL EVERYONE IMMEDIATELY THAT THERE’S STILL TIME TO PROTEST.

This Government has secretly manipulated the parliamentary process to pass THE SEXUAL ORIENTATION REGULATIONS which will FORCE YOU to accept gay sex education for your children and, even more incredibly, will likely criminalise you if you ever say anything that a homosexual feels is insulting. You no longer have the right to bring up your children as you want to, or to disagree with homosexuals about their agenda and lifestyle choices.

If you are FED UP of being insulted by homosexuals as being “homophobic,” “bigoted,” and equivalent to a racist, just because you don’t agree that children should be taught about gay sex and relationships, then be at PARLIAMENT SQUARE AT 12 NOON this coming WEDNESDAY 21ST MARCH for 1 hour.

This is a peaceful but determined demonstration by ordinary people who don’t agree with the homosexual agenda to abolish the family and criminalise 99% of the population.

We’re running out of time – PASS THIS ON, let’s make sure everyone knows what the government is up to.

In the blogosphere, the video gained far more attention from those who objected to it than those who supported it (and some of the few weblogs that did support it can be seen here, here and here).

Despite this, very few critical comments appear to have been cleared for publication under the original video. Additionally, some negative comments were published, then later deleted. I myself made two unsuccessful attempts to have a measured response published, and other YouTube users reported similar censorship of their comments.

There were also a surprising number of comments in support of the video (and subscriptions to the related channel) from brand new users of YouTube. Either a bunch of right-wing ‘Christians’ signed up immediately to voice their approval (some of them on the day before the video went public), OR we are looking at sock-puppeting/astro-turfing on a grand scale. I’m inclined to think the latter.

Of course, when the film was withdrawn, all comments were removed with it.

(One YouTube regular who posted a response to the original video also noticed that comments were removed/disabled from the CCTV collection of videos at roughly the same time.)

An archive of the comments that appeared under the original video appears below. Comments are in sequential order, with the oldest comment at top. Recent members have been highlighted, and replies to existing comments have been indented.

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JohnyGoodDay: [Joined YouTube on March 18 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]

Finally someone is standing up against the homosexual agenda! I do not believe in discrimination, but we shouldn’t be forced to teach our children things we don’t agree with.
It’s just shocking and appalling that the government wants to force this type of education into EVERY school!!!

I will be at the protest!

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philipwhealy: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

I can’t believe someone actually had the courage to say what’s simply true and wasn’t afraid of the vicious insults and personal attacks he’s likely to suffer from homosexuals. This video is factual, not “homophobic” and it’s time that gay thought control stops.
I will definitely be at the peaceful protest in London.

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LeGroomeD: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]

This law is disgusting. It’s bad enough that the Government is recommending reading books like “Daddy’s Roomate” and “Strange Boy”, which promote underage gay sex, but to make teaching it to primary school kids law is a whole new level of horrific.
I’ll definitely be at the protest.

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smithybags: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

I’m sick and tired of this grubby little government pushing through their perversions on the sly. You can’t tell me that scheduling this for Budget-Day is a mere coincidence. Remember what happened last time Tony when you deemed it a ‘good day to bury bad news?’
Well I’m not going to sit idly by while you destroy the kids – see you Wednesday!

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DeriesDC: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]

When I wrote to the MP’s to make them aware of this, this is the reply I got from Alan Simpson MP’s office:

“Dear Dries **,

You disgust me. You are so totally and utterly out of touch with the real world that it is no surprise to me the Christian faith is fizzling out to nothing in the UK. Perhaps when we have managed to turn all our children gay the problem of religious bigotry affecting our laws will no longer be an issue.”

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freakylass: [Joined YouTube on February 27 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]

What kind of a response is this from a member of parliament! it just shows you the type of people running the country, no wonder we are in such disarray. Dawn Chambers, East London

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dynolion: [Joined YouTube on March 18 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]

Please repeat this mail from the MP every 1 hour till 12p.m. tomorrow for effects. A lot of people did not see it

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ThePipster69: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]

Well done to the film makers here. This is startling and sobering and I will make sure I’m at this demonstration on Wednesday. I think homosexuals can live how they like but have no right to insult the other 99% of the population with bigoted rhetoric or force their agenda for a sexual revolution on us and our children.

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agrazi77: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]

Everytime I watch this I can’t help feeling sick… if this video becomes reality – in fact THIS IT IS REALITY in some schools… did you know that the average age that a homosexual lives to is around 39!!!! why should we sentence our children to the death in the classroom with our own education?!?!
WAKE UP!

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Sweepster9: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]

I am a parent and am horrified that this could be taught to my 6 year old son. How can a minority group of less than .5% of the population dictate what should be taught to my child? It is the loving parent who is being persecuted here – not the gay. We must stand up and oppose the SOR before it is too late. See you on Wednesday at 12:00.

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ijj1086: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

I find it horrifying to think that my children could be taught in school that a gay lifestyle is as normal and acceptable as a heterosexual one, when i believe it to be morally wrong. I believe we should all have the right to teach our children according to our own beliefs, not according to what the government says our beliefs should be. I’ll definitely be at the protest on Wednesday!

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LogaRhythm: [Joined YouTube on March 01 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

Anyone remember the Conservatives poster campaign before Tony Blair got into power with the evil eyes and “New Labour New Danger”?
Well here its reality now folks, the government is now policing our thoughts
This is the death of morality, freedom of speech and freedom of conscience
Every decent parent should be there to let them know we do not accept this tyranny

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freakylass: [Joined YouTube on February 27 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]
How true, does anyone trust Mr Blair & his cabinet, and what will it take to wake the nation up to this man’s dictatorial regime.
Dawn Chambers, East London

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freakylass: [Joined YouTube on February 27 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]

How can you put in a few words the feelings you have by watching such a video. Are teachers taking any steps to avoid presenting these subjects to their young pupils? Anyone involved with young lives, and acknowledges that these issues will confuse young minds, must surely stand up and decide to omit it from their classes. Where is our nation going? God deliver us.

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KatyLW2007: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

If this corrupt government passes this bill our children could be forced to learn about lifestyles (or should I say ‘deathstyles’) that are opposing God’s law. We cannot stand by and watch this happen, our children are far too precious. I have a daughter, it’s her 4th birthday on Wednesday — We will both be at Parliament Square Midday — Will you?

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pvanhaver: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

Excellent & stunning video. I was glad to leave Holland 10 years back and leave all this nonsense behind me. Look what has happended to this country!!! We have to do something. Total erosion of norms & values in society in avery very very sneaky way. Yak!! We need to fight them! Come on England WAKE UP!!

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campaign2007: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007, uploaded this video, and left one comment in this thread.]

Hi thanks for your support we really appreciate it! We are not going for an anti gay march at the end of the day but to protect our children. Having worked with schools extensively there is an extremely small minority of gay children and we feel that education of this type will rather be used by paedophiles to groom children. Despite what other gays are doing you need to help us stand against this…

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Aptitude: [Joined YouTube on August 14 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

Unfortunate but we in the UK r subject & have been 4 a number of years to a form of grooming by new labour & the BBC into accepting modes of behaviour & values that years ago we would not have entertained. It is impossible to fight against this form of manipulation as to do so opens one up to vilification. The truth is we r led & educated by people who have no true values & r very often screwed up mentally thinking how our behaviour can be changed not to our benefit but more to theirs, grooming.

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taure87: [Joined YouTube on June 26 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]
Good lord… i just got off the phone with a friend who generally keeps on top of subjects like this. He’s watched this film and said it’s all true – he even found the regulations on the internet for me. I cannot get my head around how corrupt this government is – what’s next? The way i see it, soon enough, paedophilia will simply be “another form of love” with the way this sick and twisted government is leading us.

You will certainly see me at the rally.

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furry138: [Joined YouTube on September 19 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

About time someone stands up against the gay mafia pushing their agenda.

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PilliePop: [Joined YouTube on March 20 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

I was totally shocked by this video. To be honest, I felt physically sick watching it – the thought that homosexual activities such as this will be promoted to children as young as 5 & 6 is just vile! I’m sick and tired of being called a homosexual bigot simply because I want to bring my children a certain way. Why is it homosexuals can disagree with our way of life and not accept another opinion – but when we disagree with their “lifestyle” we’re labelled “bigots”! I’m sick of it!!

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shelleylay: [Joined YouTube on March 20 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

my niece is in this film…first i knew about all this was during a call from my aunt…I am not a practising christian myself…I find myself disgusted by this and cant believe that the goverment are evening considering this bill…surely they have or had young children…this is open invitation to paedophillia…SORT THIS OUT FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN

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SamzyH: [Joined YouTube on September 07 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

You should be disgusted that your neice is being exploited by the purveyor of this lie.

I just read the regulations being passed into law tomorrow, and this video is a complete lie. You’re stupid for falling for it.

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mb4bnb: [Joined YouTube on March 20 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

well the country has been Hijacked by a bunch of crook in the government determine to impose there filth on us all.
They got the spin doctors ready to lie.
shame on blair and his new labour

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Ghostkitty13: [Joined YouTube on October 07 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

Homosexuality exists. Would you rather leave kids unprepared? Lots of parents don’t talk about drugs, alcohol, sex, etc, and all it does is cause problems. Besides, this video of the lady in the classroom is VERY fake. Its a set-up, obviously, and this video is completely twisted. SamzyH, kudos.

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spindrift1: [Joined YouTube on June 01 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

You have (probably deliberately) told blatant lies about the proposals. Prove me wrong, post evidence that the bill will cause teachers to announce that “families are wrong” Tell me, did incidents of homosexual behaviour increase after Larry Grayson got The Generation Game gig? If not, then can you see that the idea of children being indoctrinated into homosexual behaviour is equally as valid as the theory that watching Teletubbies makes them grow antennas?

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stevewksn: [Joined YouTube on March 20 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

Want to see what the gay rights lobby thinks about the family? – doa search in Google for “gay liberation front manifesto” – a creed most decent people will find pretty offensive, but one that Stonewall and friends have spent the last 30 years trying to implement. I for one want to see the family protected in this country and so will be at the march tomorrow.

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fayehc: [Joined YouTube on March 20 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

I think it is about time someone said something! Well done!! It is absolutely true what this video says. Obviously the classroom scene is just an example of what could happen but for all those who think that this is just a joke or a comedy sketch you are very much mistaken!!! Be warned – this could be your children.
See you tmw at 12!!!

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TheNewTechnology: [Joined YouTube on March 20 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

There’s nothing wrong with preparing our children for homosexuality, the problem is though that this bill proposes to do it with vaseline.

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tyciol: [Joined YouTube on June 07 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

Lol ya this video shows exactly what’s gonna happen.

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agrazi77: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]

Every time I see this it makes me sick. Did you know that the average life expectancy of a homosexual is 39! Children can’t make responsible decisions at 5 – our education will end up being a death sentence for our children!

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davevauxhall: [Joined YouTube on October 16 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

This is a hateful and misinformed video. It is absoloutely ridiculous. It is paranoid and an extreme caricature. The proposed regulations are about equality and the provision of goods and services. Many of the statements in this film are factually incorrect. Ask yourself how it would feel to be a homosexual student in a class and be told how evil your feelings are.

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Digital7: [Joined YouTube on April 06 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

What a load of bollocks! Do teachers tell kids to experiment with each other to find out whether they are straight?? Next time, get better actors!

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mrjonnewman: [Joined YouTube on September 04 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

You sound as camp as a row of tents!

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LeGroomeD: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]

Few homosexual relationships last longer than two years, but in a study of 156 males in homosexual relationships lasting from 1-37 years, “all couples with a relationship lasting more than five years have incorporated some provision for sexual activity outside of their relationships.” (David P. McWhirter and Andrew M. Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop, Englewood Cliffs: Prentice-Hall, 1984, pp. 252, 253)
So you’re right, 10 daddies a massive underestimation.

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LeGroomeD: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]

In a study of 2,583 older homosexuals, “the modal range for number of sexual partners was 101-500. In addition, 10.2% to 15.7% had between 501 and 1,000 partners, and between 10.2% and 15.7% reported having had more than 1,000 lifetime sexual partners” (Paul Van de Ven et al., “A Comparative Demographic and Sexual Profile of Older Homosexually Active Men,” Journal of Sex Research 34 (1997): 354).

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Hierophant2: [Joined YouTube on March 13 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

Pitchforks and Torches

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Neoboffin: [Joined YouTube on July 31 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

It’s being rushed through parliament because there’s no real debate. No teacher would tell children that they’re not normal for being homophobic.

They’ll become what they want to be, in their own time, through their own experiments.

I love the part they ‘bash’ the gay side. “two daddies, or ten daddies”, “two mummies, or lots of mummies” — Like any gay parent is going to have a huge orgy in front of their child.

Get real!

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Sensorie: [Joined YouTube on November 19 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

Too many of you are failing to see the truth, and you’re simply believing on blind faith whatever is being fed to you. This video — like others have said — is factually incorrect, and is deliberately resorting to scare tactics, not to mention the crude exploitation of young children. I urge anyone who ends up believing this video to get informed from more accurate and reliable sources.

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mikeyboylfc: [Joined YouTube on July 09 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

Utter rubbish, they do not teach this stuff about heterosexual relationships in schools. I don’t think my niece who is of the age range you showcase (and lets face it, it is a showcase) should be taught about sex in any form, be it heterosexual or homosexual. If I found that she was being told by a teacher to “experiment” with someone I would hit the roof. The one thing you forget is that children talk, its the bliss that is childish ignorance. Your video is grossly mis-informed.

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dwal060: [Joined YouTube on February 09 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

I think that was one of the most assinine pieces of video I’ve ever seen. No one teaches heterosexual kids how to experiment with one another and “discover” their sexuality when they’re 5, why would they suddenly do it now? The point is to treat homosexual and heterosexual families with the same amount of respect, not suddenly turn everything into a sex-frenzy. That video was just way over the top and shouldn’t be taken seriously at all, that just won’t happen.

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ericenslow: [Joined YouTube on September 28 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

This is the worst possible thing that anyone could ever present to the public, not only the British public, but to anyone in the world. It is this mentality that is the cause of homophobia. Reverse discrimination is such an absurd idea.

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steady3333: [Joined YouTube on April 22 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

This video is discusting

I dont want to see 6 year old children being told to “experimant with there bodies” This would be considered verbal child porography and I’m suprised at youtube for allowing it.

Pathetic

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georgeleuridan: [Joined YouTube on March 20 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]

You didn’t by any chance mean ‘disGusting’ and ‘experimEnt’, did you?

btw… what is ‘porography’?

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greling: [Joined YouTube on October 21 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

Propaganda on the telescreen, just as Orwell predicted it would be….

The people this clip is geared to are having their own 10 minutes of hate. They must be of the lower rung of the ladder of intelligence. This Anti-Sex Leauge isn’t satisfied with regulating what they do to their own bodies. They want to now regulate what everyone else does to theirs.

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Sweepster9: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]

I can see very clearly what the film makers are trying to achieve. It is a fight to preserve the innocence of our children.

At this age they should not be taught about heterosexual sex and certainly not about gay sex either. The scary thing is that books about gay activities are already available to 5 year olds in some schools and this video will soon becoming a reality.

Well done on raising awareness on this very important issue.

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scottbrianhenderson: [Joined YouTube on February 26 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

Are all you people from England really that stupid? Do you really think any governing body in England or in the world, would pass legislation that tells young children to experiment with each other to determine their sexuality? If you believe this then I have a great make money at home idea for you to purchase from me.(Hey PT Barnum said it best) Besides, as a young person I didn’t need to experiment with anyone else, male or female, to know that I was gay.

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paul107: [Joined YouTube on March 15 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

What a load of crap!! The church is scaremongering!!!

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LuthansaTerminal: [Joined YouTube on April 01 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

Scaremongering, bigoted, untrue nonsense. Talk about getting the wrong end of the stick

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suewales: [Joined YouTube on March 20 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]

This is not the wrong end of the stick, this is reality.

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JohnyGoodDay: [Joined YouTube on March 18 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]

This is obviously what COULD happen if a teacher would wish so, not everywhere. Either way, after this law is past, it will be illegal for parents to say that they do not want this taught to their children. The Bill therefore clearly goes against any democratic freedoms!

The JCHR report states in paragraph 67: “We welcome the Government’s acceptance that [the Regulations] should apply to all schools [.] without any exemption for particular types of school such as faith schools”

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crewza501: [Joined YouTube on August 08 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

This cant be real, it would of been all over tv and the newspapers by now. But even if it is real…6 is too young. To explain sexuality to kids they need to understand the scientific and social factors surrounding it. And i do not believe a 6 year old can undertsand that.

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DeriesDC: [Joined YouTube on March 18 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]

When I wrote to the MP’s to make them aware of this, this is the reply I got from Alan Simpson MP’s office:

“Dear Dries **,

You disgust me. You are so totally and utterly out of touch with the real world that it is no surprise to me the Christian faith is fizzling out to nothing in the UK. Perhaps when we have managed to turn all our children gay the problem of religious bigotry affecting our laws will no longer be an issue.”

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DavidlyMe: [Joined YouTube on January 05 2007 and left one comment in this thread. Also posted a video in response. Some of the same sock-puppets that appear here can be seen commenting under that video.]

I would be eager also to read what you wrote to your MP in the initial letter.

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DeriesDC: [Joined YouTube on March 18 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]

It was just a factual e-mail, sent to EVERY single MP, but he was the only one being so hostile about.

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discotits: [Joined YouTube on March 02 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]

What a load of mis-informed, scaremongering crap. The “enactment” is just a far-fetched scenario that would never happen. Nobody is suggesting teaching kids that “everyone is bisexual”, nor indeed about the act of sex itself. The object is to make children aware of alternative lifestyles. To teach them that there is no reason to fear or ridicule those who are different from themselves. A lesson that the makers of this film would do well to learn.

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suewales: [Joined YouTube on March 20 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]

Congratulations to the film makers – see you Wednesday.

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dynolion: [Joined YouTube on March 18 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]

Britain became Great because of the strong moral values exhibited over the ages. Imagine Xtianity without the King James Bible?. Allowing the SOR to be passed into law means Britain will end up as SODOM and GOMORRAH! Remember the end results? Total Destruction !(Biblical and historical facts confirms this). Our Children, grandchildren and generations unborn will never forgive us if we do not stand against wickedness.

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expressfashion2: [Joined YouTube on November 28 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

school should not be teaching about gay or bi sexual relationships. they never taught about straight relationships, theres no place for it in school.

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djstiles: [Joined YouTube on July 17 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

You people are delusional. That is NOT how sex education is taught in schools (gay or straight). Just because someone has fabricated a preposterous script, it doesn’t make it truth. Use your heads, people. Media has a history of manipulating the weak-minded. Don’t be fooled by garbage on the internet. Do your own homework.

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Scientist177: [Left one comment in this thread. Account is now closed.]

I am involved in research to see if homosexuality is an inherited genetic characteristic and overwhelming evidence is that it isn’t genetic, but lifestyle choice.
No gene has been found for homosexuality, and so I would agree with the film makers that care needs to be taken what is taught to children, as this is the sole source of homosexual tendencies.
Studies into the hypothalmus which have been discredited by many scientists are what homosexuals base their claim of genetic homosexuality.

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agrazi77: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left three comments in this thread.]

There is this question of homosexual genetics… there are many scientists that have argued that homosexuality is something that you’re not born with… it’s an adopted behaviour.
There have been scientific studies on twins and ALL these twin studies have only shown that’s it’s the environment that influences homosexuality – NOT genetics.
Our educational system should not influence our children to adopt such behaviour.

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bse303: [Joined YouTube on June 12 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

This is the mark of true desperation lets face it you have already lost this entire debate…. xx

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ThePipster69: [Joined YouTube on March 19 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]
Y are gays so scared? U’ve have always used abusive insults of all who don’t agree with your choices. NONE OF U WERE BORN GAY and your relentless lying about non-existent science doesn’t make it true. U’RE NOT DIFFERENT, U HAVE SIMPLY MADE DIFFERENT CHOICES ABOUT SEX. You got Sec.28 abolished so you could promote the gay lifestyle to children.
You lie, distort, and intimidate ordinary people but this nation has had enough.
Stop whining, try honesty and leave our children alone

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squidboot: [Joined YouTube on July 08 2006 and left one comment in this thread.]

horrible, paranoid, fear mongering bullshit, and not even very well executed. i hope this is a joke

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jenshamilton: [Joined YouTube on March 20 2007 and left one comment in this thread.]
Why do you guys keep saying Christians made this? It looks to me like this has been made by a bunch of concerned parents.

And don’t be stupid… this video is what MIGHT happen in schools and if teachers would which so, they can teach this. You ought to read the regulations better.

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georgeleuridan: [Joined YouTube on March 20 2007 and left two comments in this thread.]

I’m gay, and quite happy to be one, but I think the government is perfectly capable of enforcing this kind of education. If you don’t believe that, go to the Daily Mail webpage and type in ‘Outcry over explicit sex education video shown to five-year-olds’

Already, they have recommended graphical homosexual literature in schools, from the age of 3. For example, the book ‘Strange Boy’ (if you want to see the pictures, go to ‘govrecommended’ – DOT – ‘phpnet’ -DOT- ‘us’)

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One thing you will notice about many of the sock-puppet comments is the repeated suggestion that homosexuality and paedophilia go hand in hand, a message that is clearly reinforced at this CCTV web page…. but that last comment, featuring the glorious line – “I’m gay, and quite happy to be one” – is the kicker.

The Daily Mail article mentioned in that comment (fisked here) is easy enough to happen across:
Daily Mail – Outcry over explicit sex education video shown to five-year-olds

In fact, there just happens to be a mirror of this same article on the CCTV website.

This is not the only example of common ammunition; the CCTV website also features a mirror of an article about the book ‘Strange Boy’ and this book and another that is aimed at much younger readers (Daddy’s Roommate) are the primary items brought forward as evidence in this Sky News appearance by The CCTV.

(Please note how carefully these books are featured side-by-side. One might almost think that ‘Strange Boy’ – the book featuring “an inappropriate encounter in the woods between a 10-year-old boy and a 14-year-old boy” – was the one pitched at 3-year-olds.)

Oh, and take a look at the URL ‘georgeleuridan’ is pushing right at the end – http://govrecommended.phpnet.us/

At the time of writing, that page was not visible in any of the major search databases. Or any of the small ones.

It is not a ‘found object’, but material that’s coming straight from the ‘Christians’ behind the original video.

(Note also the earlier sock-puppet urging web users to “do a search in Google for ‘gay liberation front manifesto'”… which also just happens to be featured at the CCTV website.)

With all of the above in mind, one might be forgiven for suspecting that The CCTV (or someone closely connected to them) was responsible for the What The Government Doesn’t Want You To Know video and/or that activists from that group promoted the video and the agenda behind it for the 3 short days it was live.

I’ve sent The CCTV an email to ask them outright about their role in this, and will let you know what they say (if, indeed, they have anything to say for themselves at all).

One thing is certain; the author(s) of this propaganda did not have the courage to address the issue in an open and honest fashion… instead they released grossly misleading and exploitative propaganda anonymously to promote their campaign and then sought to erase the evidence once the job was done.

UPDATE – This grubby piece of propaganda has now been removed… but you can download a copy of it here.